My Next Ride – Part 1

Today I began my test drives. As you saw on my previous post, I have been looking at the following:

2014 Chevy Volt (quoted)
2014 Ford Fusion Titanium
2013 Infiniti G37 Journey Sedan (quoted)
2014 VW Passat TDI
2014 Honda Accord EXL V6
2014 Volvo S60 T5 Premium
2013 Lexus CT200h (quoted)
2013 VW GTI Wolfsburg
2014 VW Golf TDI

UPDATE: Shooting for the Volt. My first American car. Second one I’ve driven since my sister got a Pontiac Grand Prix back in 1992.

After driving the CT200h, I have decided to drop it off my list along with the GTI and the Golf. They are a tad too snug, making it tough to love. It’s not a bad car and it gets great gas mileage, but I am simply not convinced it’s worth $35k.

I will start out with my impression on the G37 and Q50 (yes, I check it out too). The G37 just felt natural to me. I felt so comfortable in it. Love the exhaust note, fit and finish. the console display does look a bit more “aged”, but to be honest, not a bit deal. Love the “rawness” of the G37. It really a well balanced sports sedan. Inventories seem to be VERY high in some dealerships so may not be tough to get what you want. I feel confident  that I can get a Journey for about 1st month + $350s with tax for 36-mo/12k per year.  The Q50 is great, it’s a more refined and roomier G. Quieter, so the “rawness and power” feel isn’t as noticeable. Still a very nice car, but I feel the infotainment console is a bit sluggish. Kind of like how MyTouch was when it was first introduced. In contrast, the Volt’s console is a bit simpler and responsive (more on that later). Overall, the G37 is my “nostagic” choice that could potentially be a keeper in the long run. I’m keeping this car as my “safe choice”.

Now, let’s talk about the Volt, shall we? There’s been a lot of confusing information floating around. I’m not saying it’s wrong. But I think that there are just a lot of assumptions being thrown around and it’s really rough to get a “skinny” on how things are truly done.

First off, the Volt’s numbers for Dec 2013 are: residual value 39% for 36mo/15k per year and MF .00057 via US Bank. Don’t bother with Ally. US Bank rates are better.

Second, $7500 federal credit  is applied to boost the residual value, making your lease more affordable. Whatever that 39% is, boost the residual dollars by $7500 and that’s the new residual value for the lease. I have been quoted 0.00091 as the MF. However, a friend of mine decided to pull the trigger on a Volt today and he got quoted .00057 thru US Bank. I’m thinking his is the base rate and mine is the “padded” one.

Third, state rebates. In the state of California, we get a $1500 rebate on the Volt. This is given via a check, which arrives about 6-8 weeks after you lease the vehicle. As of today, there is about $27 million dollars left in the program or about 48% of the entire pot.

Fourth, Costco Rebate. $500 Costco Cash after you lease a GM vehicle between now and Jan 2nd 2014. You need to have a “code” which you get via the Costco Auto program website. This is only for participating dealers. Check with Costco before you get the car from whichever dealer you are working with. Get the car, do a questionnaire and a rebate will be mailed to you afterwards.

Last, my target goal. I’m looking at a $37k MSRP model, 1st payment due. Approx $340-$350 a month with tax. 36mo/12k a year. Then I would get the $500 from Costco and $1500 state rebate, or an additional $55 per month in savings, making my effective cost around $285-$295 per month after all is said and done. Is this possible? I don’t see why not, my friend’s offer is $1550 at signing, $323 a month for a 36mo/15k lease.

As far as the car itself. I think it’s acceptable. It’s got plenty of torque. It’s smooth and being able to run 40 miles with out gas is great. In terms of interior quality and design, I think that it’s a bit “all over the place”. It’s not very cohesive and the infotainment system is kind of “all over the place” as well. There is such thing as too many options. I am computer guy and I use an Android phone. With that said, I found the Chevy’s computer system a bit too “feature rich”. The good news is that it wasn’t as sluggish as the MyTouch or the Q50s.

Overall, the Volt is really a tough deal to pass up due to the sheer amount of rebates available. It’s tough for me to give up $2000 on the table just like that, so unless something unexpected happens, you all should see some Volt pics on the Wall by month end.

What’s Going On – December 2013

I know it’s been a while since I posted a new message. Some of you are probably wondering if I went MIA again. It is safe to say that I’m still checking my messages and watching for website activity. If you have questions, feel free to ask them and I will do my best to answer them.

Lately…

I have been in the mist of at least 10 concurrent projects at work, so it’s been tough to sit down and find time to write to you all. I haven’t had much time to car shop either which really sucks because I only have until month end to take care of things. The good news is that I made some progress today by sending off a few quote requests. With that in mind, let’s move into my next topic…

My Holiday Wishlist

So I went to the LA Auto Show last week with the family and spent a solid 3.5 hours there. My little girl tagged along and hung in there like a champ. Unlike past years, I didn’t take any pictures because having a stroller and family members tagging along really makes it tough to take photos. The good news is that there really wasn’t all that much new stuff. For those of you intrigued by the MBZ CLA, I’m sorry to say that I wasn’t all that impressed by it. The interior really disappointed me because it did not scream “Mercedes-Benz”. On the flip-side, I was really impressed by the Audi A3 sedan. Fit and finish was impressive. I can only imagine how the S3 variant drives…*drool*. Unfortunately for me, these cars are just WAY TOO SMALL. Very tight quarters. Maybe I’m just getting old (and large), but it’s not all that easy to get in and out of those cars now. Anyway, going back to the real point, this auto show was really an opportunity for me to check out vehicles on my “lease” list and hopefully get some feedback from the wife. Without any further delay, here’s what I’ve been working towards…

Top Choices (in order)

2014 Chevy Volt (quoted)
2014 Ford Fusion Titanium
2013 Infiniti G37 Journey Sedan (quoted)
2014 VW Passat TDI
2014 Honda Accord EXL V6
2014 Volvo S60 T5 Premium
2013 Lexus CT200h (quoted)
2013 VW GTI Wolfsburg
2014 VW Golf TDI

The hope here is to get a real low payment, most bang for the buck and lowest operating cost (in that order). Fuel efficiency would be nice since the Pilot isn’t exactly a gas-sipper, but not crucial since my commute is only about 10 miles each way.

VOLT Update

In any case, I got an initial offer for the Chevy Volt tonight that looks like this:

MSRP: $35, 156.00
Your Price: $31,156.00

US BANK LEASE
3-years/10,000-miles
Drive-Off: $774.06
Payment: 361.26 (includes sales tax of 9%)
Rate: 0.00091

$500 Costco Cash Card (This promotions is going on for many GM vehicles through early January 2014)

Dealer “forgot” to disclose the residual, but I’m not too worried about it. As I said, it’s an initial offer so I’m just going to bring down the hammer after I test drive the car. No sense getting into the nitty-gritty if I end up disliking the car, right?

Got my hands on it…58.245%, not too shabby. So the key now would be to obtain the full $9000 credits ($7500 FED + $1500 CA) and they can sell the car for MSRP for all I care.

Stay-tuned folks! It’s going to be a busy month of December 🙂

G37 Update

Got a quote for the G37 Journey $811 at signing, $375 a month tax included. 62% / .00084 at 36mo/12k. Looks like there’s a lot more wiggle room.

CT200h Update

Received the quote with no lease rate information, but I was able to estimate the possible numbers…$550 at signing, $395 per month tax included. Based on those payments and the assumption that the residual hasn’t changed much since Oct (61%), I calculated the MF being about .00033. I will get confirmation tomorrow.

S60 T5 Update

VOLVO December numbers are in so check them out! I didn’t get a quote yet, but they look good! I will ask for a quote next week. Check back for an updated.

 

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Looking Ahead

I know it hasn’t been the easy for many of you trying to hunt down lease rates this month.  I too have been impacted since I was just about to begin shopping for my Sonata replacement. The good news is that a whole lot of you have stepped up to keep things alive, which is phenomenal. This may be the best way to keep things alive in my opinion. Going forward, I will do my best to establish a place to gather and share information, doing my best to provide you with the resources to make leasing an easier endeavor.

Starting this month, you will begin to see some of the changes that I plan to implement to further improve the site. Below are some of the things that you should expect in the coming months:

  1. Website redesign to accomodate the new structure.
  2. Crowd-sourced model will be refined (Kudos to Ron for the Google Forms suggestion). In future, I will have a more “home-brewed” system in place. In the meantime, Google Forms will do the job
  3. Based on the Aug-Sept poll results, lease rates will be streamlined, focusing key brands such as BMW, Audi, Acura, MBZ, Lexus, Infiniti, Honda and VW, with Volvo added whenever supplied. However we will not be limited to only those (see next bullet)
  4. There will be another list of rates for “one-off” models from all other makes (I decided this once I got a chance to see the Lincoln MKZ. I am really curious as to how much this ride goes for)
  5. Registration will be required to post questions, requests, interact with me and other members.
  6. Lease calculator will get a major overhaul and will be planned for mobile devices (this will take time and money to put together so please be patient)

There seems to be some “doomsday” reaction going around regarding this site being “shutdown”.  As you know, that isn’t the case. The truth is that my “source” decided that lease rates in exchange for referrals isn’t in their best interest anymore. No other source has stepped since offering to supply me with more numbers, so this is where we are.  Should the community choose not to grow from what we’ve built, then we all know what happens next.

As consumers, we will ultimately determine whether sites like this stick around. I have had three brokers supply numbers in the past and they all have stopped. That model was clearly not sustainable in the long haul. Our best chance is to get the numbers independently and share them with the community. We want their cars. We choose who we do business with. We don’t want to be cheated. Is that simple.

I will continue to contribute community to the best of my abilities. I genuinely hope everyone else does the same.

Thank you all for the many years of support. Let’s keep the wheels spinning.

G

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2013-14 Infiniti Lease Rates – September 2013

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  • I do not respond to requests for numbers. All numbers I have are posted.
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Does RWG need a mobile app and would you pay for one?

  • No. This blog is just fine (48%, 196 Votes)
  • Yes, but it should free (29%, 116 Votes)
  • Yes. I would pay a small one-time fee (21%, 86 Votes)
  • Yes. I would pay a small monthly fee for advance features (2%, 7 Votes)

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  • iPhone first! (68%, 201 Votes)
  • Android first! (32%, 96 Votes)

Total Voters: 297

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2013 Infiniti Lease Rates – August 2013

Couple of comments:

  • I do not respond to requests. Everything I have for August is posted.
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2013 Infiniti Lease Rates – July 2013

Most Infiniti models incurred a loss of residual value this month so IFS adjust the MF to keep the payments from going up. Infiniti is doing the pull ahead program for leases expiring through November 1st, 2013 (about 4 payments). They are also waiving the disposition feed of $395 and giving out $2500 loyalty cash on the G37. Not too shabby if you ask me.

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2013 Infiniti Lease Rates – June 2013

Oddly enough, IFS dropped the residuals and increased some money factors. That’s quite strange for the following reasons: 1) It’s June and numbers just changed in May 2) With the new Q coming. the G37 dropped residual and the money factor went up? 3) It’s freaking JUNE!!!

Anyway. the good news is that the G37 does have $2,500 Lease Cash so I’m sure a nice low sale price can fix the weird lease rates. Lease on brothers and sisters!

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2013 INFINITI QX56 4WD
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00148 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 SEDAN JOURNEY
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 SEDAN X AWD
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00036 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 SEDAN SPORT MANUAL
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00046 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI FX37 AWD
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00070 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI FX50 AWD
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00127 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE IPL AT
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00047 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE JOURNEY
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00047 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE X AWD
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00055 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE SPORT MANUAL
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00047 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI M37 SEDAN X AWD
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00006 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI M56 SEDAN X AWD
36 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00113 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI M35H SEDAN HYBRID
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00064 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 CONVERTIBLE BASE
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00072 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 CONVERTIBLE SPORT 6MT
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00072 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI JX35 AWD
36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00103 Base Rate

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2013 Infiniti Lease Rates – May 2013

May numbers actually don’t look all the great. Residuals dropped and money factors didn’t drop to compensate for the bigger loan. The good news is that there is a crap load of cash laying around for many of the popular models. Be sure to check on Edmunds’ incentive page for details.

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2013 INFINITI EX37 AWD
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00173 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI FX37 AWD
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00089 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI FX50 AWD
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00145 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 SEDAN JOURNEY
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00042 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 SEDAN X AWD
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00033 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 SEDAN SPORT MANUAL
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00042 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE IPL AT
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00024 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE JOURNEY
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00024 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE X AWD
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00034 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 COUPE SPORT MANUAL
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00024 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 CONVERTIBLE BASE
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00090 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI G37 CONVERTIBLE SPORT 6MT
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00090 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI JX35 AWD
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00104 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI M37 SEDAN X AWD
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00032 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI M56 SEDAN X AWD
36 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00033 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI M35H SEDAN HYBRID
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00064 Base Rate

2013 INFINITI QX56 4WD
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00148 Base Rate