July 2008 Lease Rate for 08 Lexus IS350

IS350 Sedan
24 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 49% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 40% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate

* Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year. Add 2% to Residual for 12k mi/yr and 3% for 10k mi/yr on all terms
** Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

My Take: No lease support here. Unless you really LOVE this car, now is not the time to be leasing it.

Happy 4th of July!!!

Happy 4th everyone! I hope you all have awesome events planned. Just a couple things:

Try to avoid those “Holiday Sales Events”, leases/purchases are best done during “slow” days or end of the month. Another thing is, most rates will not be changing until after the 7th of July. So many of the June rates will still apply unless the dealer has the new rates in hand.

Have a great Independence Day!!!

Tire “Born-On” Date…Why It Matters

Every tire has a “manufactured” date or as Budweiser would call it, a “Born-On” date.  Like beer, tires have a shelf life too. It is very important that you know how old tires are before you buy them. Since tire rubber deteriorates over time if its stored under less than optimal conditions. Drinking old beer can pose a health risk or to a lesser extent, bad taste in your mouth. Installing an older tire on the other hand, can pose a very serious safety risk, even death.

Industry standard suggests that a tire should be removed from service if its older than 6 years. If stored properly, a tire could be used even if it’s two years old. Remember this is under the assumption that the tire are stored properly. In warm states (where the potential of tires’ “drying out” is high), you probably want tires that are less than one year old. So read each tire carefully BEFORE you have them installed. The last thing you want is to have a four year old tire and then drive on them for another three.

To learn how to read the sidewall for the “manufactured” date, find the DOT (Dept of Transportation) Markings on the sidewall of your tires.  The DOT markings help track the tire in the same way food is tracked.  Circled in the image below, you will see the last for digits of the DOT markings on one of my tires. The first two numbers are the week (08), and the last two are year (08). So my tires were “born” on the 8th week of the 2008 calendar year or February 2008. Not bad since I got the car three months later.

Back in May 2008, there was a story on this same topic on ABCNEWS. Check it out!

I hope everyone takes the time to check their tires and get new ones if needed. I know they can get expensive, but life is priceless.

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Update: Lease Calculator v1.2

I’ve made some changes to the lease calculator, so be sure get the newer/updated version. This version includes a couple of changes:

  • Added “Total Taxes on Down Payment”. This shows how much taxes you will owe if you put XYZ down to reduce the cap cost. That number is them added to the “Due at Signing” field.
  • Acq/Bank fees and Dealer Doc fees are now taxable and is automatically added into the “due at signing” field.

So go ahead and download the new Lease Calculator to replace the old one. Please understand that not all states lease cars the same way. I do my best to “cater to the masses” but it’s practically impossible to cover all the different rules, taxes, etc… from each state.  So you may need to use the calculator “creatively” in order to get the desired results.

Special shout out to Dave ISM over at myG37.com for bringing this to my attention. Questions, comments, issues? Leave me a comment.

Feeling the Pinch at the Pump

A picture says a thousand words, so just look below:

That was this morning…talk about rude awakening…

I actually used the Gas Price Locator to find the cheaper gas station around my work. It was pretty accurate, $4.65 for Premium (91). That’s surprising since I’ve seen this gas station change prices three times in one day!

Word of caution: if you do a lot of city driving and are looking to lease an Infiniti G37…I’m getting 17.5 miles to the gallon on Premium fuel. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

This freaking hurts…lucky for me, it only hurts about twice a month.

Twitter!

RIDEwithG gets a  Twitter!

In case you don’t know what Twitter is, it’s a status update of sorts.  It allows you to make small updates on pretty much anything you want in 140 characters or less.  It’s not as useless as it sounds.   For example, during the wildfires in San Diego last year, KPBS twittered little updates on freeway closures.  It beats going on traffic bloated websites and Twitter is so small, it’s easy to check on your cell phone.

Some other Twitters I subscribe to are BBC News, NPR News, MSNBC, 10news (my local news), KPBS News, White Carrot Food & Travel, Got|Apex? Deals, and some of my friends.

Also, you can also set your Twitter up to automatically change your AIM, Gchat, and Facebook status automatically.

Check out the RIDEwithG Twitter!

G’s Guide To Auto Leasing

This guide is meant to show you through the auto leasing process. I put this together based on my past experiences with leasing. Some experiences were good, others were less than perfect. Overall, I learned a lot about the leasing process and I think these recommendations will have a positive impact on your leasing experience. If I missed anything or if you disagree with some of my steps, please feel free to leave a comment.

Finding the Car
I usually start my research by visiting Edmunds.com and CarsDirect.com to get model/trim/options/pricing information about the car I intend to lease. You need to know exactly what you want because each option can change the price dramatically. CarsDirect.com does a better job letting you pick the correct combination of options for a specific trim.

Get Your Credit Score. Knowing your credit score is important because it qualifies you for the lowest money factors. Typically, I let my dealer know that my credit score is “XYZ” and I am looking for car “ABC”. Telling the dealer your credit score informs the dealer in advance that you are prepared to make a deal and you aren’t wasting their time negotiating. Since you don’t want your credit run multiple times from dealer-to-dealer, finding out ahead of time will keep your credit score from getting hit with too many inquiries (personal inquiries do not hurt your credit). Typically, I don’t even deal with dealers that request to run your credit before working with you or to get a test drive. You let them run your credit ONLY when the negotiation is complete and you are ready to begin paperwork. If you credit is less than perfect, leasing is not for you because you cannnot qualify for the lowest rates. In some cases, you won’t even qualify at all. Lease loans usually have stricter approval guidelines than purchasing loans. 

You can use the following credit services to check your credit scores:

In my experience, most dealers I have worked with have used Experian or TransUnion credit scores. However, I recommend checking all three if you haven’t done so in a few years.

Locating a Dealer. Once you are set on the car, you have a couple of options. You can go to the manufacturer’s web site to search for all local dealers or use third-party quote systems like TrueCar.com or Edmunds.com to find local dealers. I personally prefer using TrueCar.com because it provides excellent data which is crucial when negotiating your lease.

Email or  Call Dealers, Do Not Visit Dealerships unless you are just doing a test drive. Ideally, you want to email (since the process will then be in writing) your dealer to locate the car with the colors/options you want, let them know the term you want (months and miles per year), then ask for the following:

  1. MRSP (to make sure it doesn’t have ‘extras’ on it).
  2. Sale Price (start with invoice, or $500 below invoice and go from there)
  3. Money Factor
  4. Residual Value
  5. Acquisition/Bank Fee
  6. Dealer Doc Fee
  7. Other Fees (such as DMV, tire, etc…)
  8. Is there a disposition? Gap coverage? (these are important things to know!)
  9. Taxes (depending on which state you live in, find out if you have to pay those up front and/or if you need to pay for the entire car or just the depreciation)

Once you have those numbers, you can calculate your own payments to see if there are any discrepancies between your numbers and theirs.  If you have never used my RWG Lease Calculator, you may want to read up on my “How To” post.

If the payments are still higher than you like, ask for the option to make “multiple security deposits” or MSDs. You basically pay security deposits to lower the Money Factor. This will lower the interest paid on your lease but increase your up-front costs. The good news is that you will get that money back at lease-end. If the numbers are still not to your satisfaction, try having the dealer thrown in some free oil changes to help you offset the costs. Now remember, if you trade-in or sell your car before your lease is up, you will LOSE your MSDs! If you put MSDs down, you better make sure you wait until your lease term ends.

Only work with dealers that are up front with you. A pleasant leasing experience is worth something, believe me. It will make you feel better bringing the car in for service and you won’t feel angry driving around in your car because you feel you got ripped off.

Avoid “All-In-One” Quotes. By those I mean “$1999 down, $399/month” type of quotes…the ones the dealers love to quote you. You want to avoid those because it’s easy to start losing track of what you’re actually paying for since everything is bundled and nothing is itemized. If this seems like nit-picking, it is, but you must realize that for every $100 paid in bogus charges, you are doing so with interest (and maybe even tax) if you roll it into your lease payments. Experienced lessees can take the “All-In-One” approach if they have already pre-calculated their payments and know what to expect.

The Numbers look Good, Now What? If you haven’t gone in for a test drive, go ahead and schedule a visit to your dealer. You will probably want to visit the person you’ve been dealing with via email, that way, he or she will already know you and won’t go into the “sales-mode”, thus making your test drive more enjoyable.

Got a Trade-In? If you do, negotiate it after the new car and keep it separately. I usually use this as a “deal-breaker” if the offer isn’t good enough (to see if they will bump out the trade value to make a sale). If you don’t like the offer, remember you can always get it appraised elsewhere or sell it on your own. You can get a good idea as to how much your trade is worth to a dealer by going to Edmunds.com and appraising your car at “GOOD/AVERAGE” condition to get a more “realistic” idea of the value of your car. If you are still financing your car and the offer is lower than the balance of your loan, you will have to pay the difference. If its more than your loan, the dealer will either give you the option to apply it to your new car or cut you a check (I generally prefer the check). If you are trading in a lease, the process is similar.  The only difference is that you need to find out what your “PAYOFF” is from your bank and see how close the dealer’s offer comes to it. If your leased vehicle is a popular model, has low miles and is in great condition, you could get some money back.

What Should I Pay Up Front/At Signing? I normally advise people to pay the 1st Month Payment, Acquisition/Bank fee, DMV fee, Doc fee and Tire Tax (Some states will ask for the sales tax to be paid upfront instead of monthly). Sometimes you may be assessed other fees, so double check and make sure they aren’t bogus. Try not to put any money towards cap cost reduction, after all, this is a lease. In the event of an total loss accident or theft, you could lose a significant part of all the money you have put down (or all of it).

Beware of the Finance Guy/Gal. The Finance Guy/Gal is the dealer’s last ditch effort to sell you stuff you may or may not need. Seriously, do you really need anything more than the standard bumper-to-bumper warranty on a lease? You don’t need Lo-Jack on a lease, specially since most leases have GAP coverage.

Make sure you READ the papers BEFORE you sign. You got time, after all you negotiated online before you showed up to the dealership, so READ, make sure the numbers are correct and ask questions. Once you sign, the deal is binding by those terms.

June 2008 Lease Rates for 08 Lexus ES and GS

2008 Lexus ES350 Sedan
24 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00085 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00085 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00225 Base Rate

2008 Lexus ES350 Ultra-Luxury Sedan
24 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00085 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00085 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 32% of MSRP – .00225 Base Rate

2008 Lexus GS350 Sedan
24 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00105 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00105 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00105 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 32% of MSRP – .00225 Base Rate

2008 Lexus GS350 AWD Sedan
24 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00105 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 46% of MSRP – .00105 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00105 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00225 Base Rate

* Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year. Add 2% to Residual for 12k mi/yr and 3% for 10k mi/yr on all terms
** Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

My Take: The ES and GS are current enjoying lower MFs. That also is partly because they aren’t as popular as the IS. Residual values are terrible for the GS though, I think that care is in need of a redesign. No worries though, Lexus will be rolling out the LF (which happens to be the car on the banner of RIDE with G) in the near future. Expect it to be VERY expensive.