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September 2008 Lease Rate for 09 Mercedez Benz C-Class

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My Take: I have yet to see a “solid” deal on a C-Class since I started this blog. Bone stock, the C300 Sport 4matic already costs nearly $500 a month + inception fees. Better deals can be had elsewhere right now if you ask me. Other sedans to consider are of course the A4, 328i, IS250 or the G35 sedan, soon to be G37 sedan.

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  • C300 Sport 4matic, Stock
  • MSRP $36,275
  • Invoice $33,797
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2009 Mercedes C300 Sport 4matic
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00223 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00223 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00239 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $525 at invoice, $634 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $495 at invoice, $570 at MSRP

2009 Mercedes C300 Luxury
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00236 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00248 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 46% of MSRP – .00248 Base Rate

2009 Mercedes C300 Luxury 4matic
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00223 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00239 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00239 Base Rate

2009 Mercedes C300 Sport
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00236 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00248 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00248 Base Rate

2009 Mercedes C350 Sport
24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00385 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00350 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00350 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 40% of MSRP – .00350 Base Rate

2009 Mercedes C63 AMG
24 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00385 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00350 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00350 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00350 Base Rate

Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

September 2008 Lease Rate for 08/09 Honda Accord and 08 Civic Si

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My Take: It doesn’t look like Honda is providing any lease support at the moment. You can also see how Honda is discouraging 08 leases by bumping the MF to .00370 on the 24-month leases and using their standard .00270 lease rate for their 36-month leases. If you need me to work up a scenerio here, leave a comment with the terms you are interested in.

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2009 Honda Accord Coupe EX I4 Manual
24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00249 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00249 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00255 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate

2009 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L V6 Manual
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00249 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00249 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00255 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate

2008 Honda Accord EX-L V6 w/Navigation Sedan Auto
24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00370 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00255 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 33% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate

2008 Honda Civic Coupe Si
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00370 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00255 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate

Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

Featured Question 1

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I get good number of emails every week and I sometimes I find that some of the questions need to be shared with the community because they are just very good questions. I want to thank James for his question today because his question has inspired me to create a new segment of “featured questions” for the site. Many Thanks!

James: How is leasing a G37 sport bad right now?

G: The G37 is a worse lease than last month, but it isn’t a horrible lease overall. I will looking into the numbers in a bit.

James: It’s the SAME price as the IS 350 and the 135 and it’s $100 less a month.

G: I wouldn’t consider it fair to compare the IS350 with the G37 since we are talking about a coupe and a sedan. Those shopping for a coupe certainly should pick the G37 over the 135i, while those shopping for a sedan should consider the G35 if the IS350 is not to their liking.

James: 71% for 10k miles, .00179 M, 2300 down with your Excel lease sheet it comes to $400.83 a month with 6.5% taxes.

G: I’m not sure how you came out with those numbers since a MSRP and Cap Cost was not define. But lets take my August numbers and use them as an example.

MSRP 40215
Sale Price 36856

August Numbers
G37 Sport
24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00216 Base Rate

September Numbers
G37 Sport
24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00179 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate

Something to note, when you lease for 24 months, the residual is the same on the 10k and the 12k lease. Tarry apparently keeps getting that wrong on Infiniti leases, so make sure to note that. Regardless, let us assume the lease is for 15k miles.

August Monthly Payment is: $470 (plus inception and taxes)
September Monthly Payment is: $511 (plus inception and taxes)

Essentially, you are paying about $41 more from August to September. Now those who leased in July/August were paying about $30 more than the ones who leased in May/June. Essentially, the price went up $70+ per month since June. And I suspect it’s only going to go up until the 09 model is released.

James: That’s a great deal compared to the others above. Can you tell me why you didn’t suggest it?

G: I apologize if I gave the impression that the G37 is a horrible deal compared to other cars of the same price range. My main reason for not suggesting it is because I felt the lease wasn’t as good as it has been in the past few months. Factor in the fact that most people lease the Journey over the Sport and the payments jump that much more due to the lower residual value. The G37 is still one of the best values when it comes to coupes, so if you don’t mind paying a bit more than those who leased a few months ago, then I would suggest doing so before the 09 model rolls into showrooms.

September 2008 Lease Rate for 08 Lexus IS250

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My Take: The numbers are up a bit from last month due to the drop in residual. The AWD model takes a 2% hit at 24 months and 3% hit at 36 months. The lease rates of .0008 that were post last month were actually lower from what I’ve seen around the web (.00055). Unfortunately, this month, they are up. So the lease got a bit expensive compared to last month. No word on the RWD model yet, but I will update this post if I come cross them.

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  • IS250 Sedan + Premium Plus Package
  • MSRP $36,160
  • Invoice $31,849
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2008 Lexus IS250 AWD Sedan
24 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00095 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00095 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $503 at invoice, $687 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $420 at invoice, $544 at MSRP

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September 2008 Lease Rate for 08 Lexus IS 350

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My Take: The IS350’s lease rate is quite low this month. Compared to July, the residual only dropped 1%, while the MF dropped from .00245 to .00090. A pretty good deal if you ask me. Are there better alternatives? Certainly, but if you are fixated on an IS350, this isn’t a bad month to take one home. TMV suggests $37,557, about $1300 over invoice. I suspect you can do better.

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  • IS350 Sedan + Luxury Plus Package
  • MSRP $41,455
  • Invoice $36,233
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2008 Lexus IS350 Sedan
24 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00090 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00090 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $613 at invoice, $835 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $504 at invoice, $654 at MSRP

Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

September 2008 Lease Rate for 08 Infiniti G37

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My Take: Before we get into the numbers, I’d like to apologize for disappearing these past few days without notice. Had a family medical emergency late Monday, so I had to pack my things and skip town last minute. Things are okay now and I just got back tonight, so I should be able to resume with the site updates and email questions. Thanks for your patience.

Anyway, I did find some rates, so I will be posting them in the coming days, so please bare with me here. First of all, the numbers for G37 look BAD this month. I wouldn’t consider leasing the 08 models at all this year. Your better bet would be to wait for the 09s or just buy/finance an 08 model with their low 0.9% APR for up to 60 months. That results in a much better deal. If you are curious as to what APR a money factor of .00215 is, just multiply the MF by 2400 and that should tell you what kind of APR you are paying for. Not a good deal now, is it?

I’m not going to bother with the estimates since I’m recommending that you don’t lease this car. Buy or wait for the 09s instead, that’s money better spent. If you are still considering a lease of the 08 model, then leave a comment and I will crunch some numbers for you.

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2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe –
24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00179 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00194 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 46% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate

2008 Infiniti G37 Journey Coupe –
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00179 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00194 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate

2008 Infiniti G37 Sport Coupe –
24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00179 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00194 Base Rate
60 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00215 Base Rate

Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

September 2008 Lease Rates for 09 Audi A4

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My Take: Yup, it’s here. The highly anticipated 2009 Audi A4 lease rates are out, and they actually look pretty solid. This is surprising since leasing is supposed to be “bad” in this economy. I personally find it hard to believe that automakers will do away with leasing completely, or make it so unattractive to dissuade us from leasing altogether. I suspect that it all depends on the term and the car being leased.

Add 1% to the residual if you purchase the AudiCare package. That will add $650 more to you sale price, but the increased residual will save you money overall.

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  • A4 2.0T Premium Plus quattro
  • MSRP $37,525
  • Invoice $34,911
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Premium Plus quattro Tiptronic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00171 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00171 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $570 at invoice, $683 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $491 at invoice, $568 at MSRP

Be very careful here. If you pick the prestige package, that’s a whole different car with lower residuals and MF. This is just for the premium package. If you haven’t noticed, there isn’t a FWD version of the A4 sedan anymore. Which explain the bump of around $3k on the base price tag. TMV Suggest a sale price of $37,354, which is practically nothing. I’m not surprised. This car is redesigned after all. Still a bit expensive for my taste if you ask me. I would probably look at the 09 C300, I hear that $1000 below invoice is not unheard of.

  • A4 2.0T Cabriolet + Convenience + iPod + Metallic Paint
  • MSRP $43,675
  • Invoice $40,676
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Cabriolet
24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00096 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00096 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $632 at invoice, $759 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $536 at invoice, $623 at MSRP

This one is one is for you Dianne. ^_^ The numbers look pretty good for the A4 Cabrio. So I would recommend it if you are looking for a Convertible. The numbers are certainly better looking than the 3-series right now. With very limited convertibles in the entry-level luxury segment, this one is certianly worth checking out. Who knows, Audi just might not jerk you around like BMW normally does.

Rest of the A4 line up
Numbers look pretty decent, but there is room to go lower. Don’t expect crazy sub $400 a month deals any time soon (ever?). I think as the residuals drop, Audi will adjust the MF to keep the payments around the same ballpark.

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Premium quattro Tiptronic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 65% of MSRP – .00171 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00171 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Prestige quattro Tiptronic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00171 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00171 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 3.2T Premium Plus quattro Tiptronic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00169 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00169 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 3.2T Prestige quattro Tiptronic Sedan
24 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00169 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00169 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Premium quattro Tiptronic Avant
24 Month – Residual 64% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 49% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Premium Plus quattro Tiptronic Avant
24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 2.0T Prestige quattro Tiptronic Avant
24 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00167 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2009 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Cabriolet
24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00092 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00092 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

2008 Audi A4 3.2L quattro Cabriolet
24 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00127 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00127 Base Rate
48 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00299 Base Rate

Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com

September 2008 Lease Rates for 08 BMW X5, Z4, 7-Series, 6-Series & X6

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My Take: I started to notice a trend here with BMW leases this month. The massive drop in residual has made 24mo leases a really bad deal. On the flip-side, 36mo residuals remained the same and are rewarded with a new lower MF, making these leases CHEAPER than last month. VERY good time to jump into a X5 if that’s what you are looking to lease. I know that with gas prices at these levels, these SUVs aren’t exactly flying off the shelves. Nevertheless, some families do need the space, so now is not a bad the time. Better to lease one of these than to own them if you ask me.

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  • X5 3.0si + Sport + Tech + Premium Packages
  • MSRP $56,175
  • Invoice $51,655
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2008 BMW X5 3.0si 4WD SUV
24 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00160 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00160 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $929 at invoice, $1125 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $738 at invoice, $870 at MSRP <–Cheaper than last month*

Last month’s payments on the same exact car:

24mo Payment: $851 at invoice, $1049 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $770 at invoice, $905 at MSRP

  • X5 4.8i + Sport + Tech + Premium Packages
  • MSRP $63,775
  • Invoice $58,655
  • Standard inception fees + tax not included
  • Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year.

2008 BMW X5 4.8i 4WD SUV
24 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00135 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00135 Base Rate

24mo Payment: $955 at invoice, $1175 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $781 at invoice, $930 at MSRP

Last month’s payments on the same exact car:

24mo Payment: $892 at invoice, $1114 at MSRP
36mo Payment: $819 at invoice, $970 at MSRP

If you haven’t noticed, this month you can get a 4.8i at 36 months for about $11 more than leasing a 3.0si last month. For those who waited, I say WOO HOO! I would most definitely pony up $11 more a month to be in a 4.8i than on the 3.0si. That’s $11 more a month to drive in a car that’s has over $7000 more in upgrades. NICE! That’s $396 more over 3 yrs for those who like numbers.

Rest of the BMW line up:
I didn’t notice anything exceptional. I mean most people aren’t shopping for 7-series since the payments are more than some people’s mortgage.  Don’t worry, I will still assist with payment calculations, just leave me comment or send me an email.

2008 BMW X6 xDrive35i Wagon
24 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 49% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate

2008 BMW X6 xDrive50i Wagon
24 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 44% of MSRP – .00270 Base Rate

2008 BMW 650Ci Coupe
24 Month – Residual 63% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate

2008 BMW 650CiC Convertible
24 Month – Residual 65% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate

2008 BMW M6 Coupe
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate

2008 BMW M6 Convertible
24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00170 Base Rate

2008 BMW 750i Sedan
24 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate

2008 BMW 750Li Sedan
24 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate

2008 BMW 760Li Sedan
24 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 37% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate

2008 BMW Alpina B7 Sedan
24 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 40% of MSRP – .00125 Base Rate

2008 BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe
24 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate

2008 BMW Z4 3.0i Convertible
24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate

2008 BMW Z4 3.0si Convertible
24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate

2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe
24 Month – Residual 64% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate

2008 BMW Z4 M Convertible
24 Month – Residual 64% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
36 Month – Residual 56% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate

Rates provided by Tarry Shebesta from Leasecompare.com